The letters used start with "A" for 1977 and go on to "0" for 1991 when Camillus bought the rights to Western at auction. As you can see it also has the small pins in the handle. In addition, their handsome appearance makes them favorites for collectors. We also created 2.6 million jobs in the U.S.enough to employ the entire city of Houston, TX! Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. Fill out the requested information. Yea it is an old thread. The only sure way to get one that was in Vietnam is from a vet that can document the knife. It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. Original Price 2,610,345 By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. So their history is rather murky, to say the least. The W49 is the most common found today. Measures 15-1/4" overall with a 10" blade. It came in handy when I tested a Ontario sp 8 "machete". Below are pictures of the guard: Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement. Ridge Runner Whitetail Ridge Bowie Knife $26.99 $9.98! 3,386,453, 6,157,389 (45% off), Sale Price $21.96 And the sales receipt is proof of age. Terms of Service. 2,807,882, 9,359,606 Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. (50% off), Sale Price 1,097,291 Average depth of cut with a full swing was about a quarter inch. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Used one for years for yardwork, camping, etc till I discovered machetes. The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. In the 19th century, one of the most popular fixed-blade knives, the Bowie, appeared. Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. All photos were 10 chops. Tep. joe. Originally designed by Col. James Bowie, a Bowie knife describes any large sheath knife. I started looking into this subject a couple of years ago. I took it, the aforementioned W49 and a Case Alamo Bowie out in the yard and started chopping on a old log of locust wood I'd had laying around for a couple of years. Original Price $121.00 Original Price 2,249,754 Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. All of the W49s Ive seen from Western Cutlery are high carbon steel and most of them show some sign of aging after 30 plus years. Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. That was interesting. My biggest concern with their "chopping" ability is the very thin edge. Original Price 2,758,374 The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. 2. It didn't have much heft. i still have mine its a hellava knife!! This pattern is not exclusive to Western although they were the last to mass produce it. Original Price $188.24 At least I know the knife was made between 1977 and 1980, thanks for the help! This will differ depending on what options are available for the item. It appears that much was lost during the periods that Western changed hands. Found something you love but want to make it even more uniquely you? Western W49 Bowie Knife - Vintage Bowie From Boulder Colorado CloverTac 14.9K subscribers 5.6K views 4 years ago #TacticalLeprechaun Today let's take a look at a cool vintage Western w49. Gil Hibben 65TH Anniversary Old West Bowie Knife And Sheath - Stainless Steel Blade, Wooden Handle, Gold-Plated Guard $109.99 2,684,911, 4,881,657 $89.17, $297.22 While many of the items on Etsy are handmade, youll also find craft supplies, digital items, and more. All items come from a SMOKE-FREE environment! The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. Wild West Bowie Knives. While it may not be everyone's self-defense weapon of choice, a Bowie knife is an excellent hunting knife. 3,722,167, 4,962,808 Probably one of the most memorable movie quotes of all time came about when Crocodile Dundee scoffed at a mugger's switchblade saying, "That's not a knife." 3,047,783, 4,063,793 With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. Exterior: Minimal Wear. I am trying to decide between the Western, Case, Ontario, or the new Remington. $86.70, $289.00 Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. Original Price $400.00 At least as far as I've been able to determine. Original Price $150.00 Great! NOTE: This is NOT AN AUCTION. Check out the latest price. I had put together this table that I'm going to post but not sure how it'll show up. Thick edges annoy me. AH, I was unaware of this point. I have owned alot of these knives and in fact the picture is of my knife. In 1991 the rights to the Western brand was auctioned to the Camillus Knife Co. . He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight. Good news! Although it was mainly used and marketed as a hunting knife, its origins were that of a weapon. The 4th variant also has larger pins. Heres my question. Original Price 4,205,911 It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 Details J.E.B. The guard wasn't fitted well. by Colonel26 Wed May 02, 2018 10:54 am, Post Vintage 14 1/2" Western W49 Bowie Knife with Sheath. They come all sorts of ways. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. I have handled about five Western Bowies that were used in Vietnam. The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. (45% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline, Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). $77.64, $91.34 $75.30, $188.24 Frequently bought together + Total price: To see our price, add these items to your cart. (45% off), Sale Price 1,708,876 Chrome is very hard and resist a lot of the normal scratching that would show on other knives. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. The seller might still be able to personalize your item. Original Price $149.97 Cut off the top guard years ago. Sold. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . The next 3 versions of the Western Bowie are identical in material and construction. MERRY CHRISTMAS! IMHO its hard to link gear made after 1972 to being In Country without being attached to some strong provenance. From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. com, usedvictoria.com are popular sites for selling items in Canada. This traditionally by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am, Post The ONLY differences between versions #2, #3 and #4 are in stamp location(s). You must be logged in to contact sellers. The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. (30% off), Sale Price 1,183,432 Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 Original Price $169.99 JavaScript is disabled. razor sharp and good in the hand. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. 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I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. 1,183,432, 2,958,284 (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). In 2020 alone, purchases on Etsy generated nearly $4 billion in income for small businesses. Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. 2,370,466, 4,740,933 (40% off), Sale Price 2,359,467 Made in the USA!!! I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Is that a bad thing that it is not a Western Knife but a Coleman instead? Just when you think you have them figured out one turns up that does not fit the mold. The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. It is supposed to have catalog pages showing the available knives from before WW2 through 1979. The ones marked W49 with large handle bolts are questionable to me. Original leather sheath. $84.99, $169.99 Western Bowie 1984. The bowie knife is a legend of the American frontier. Captcha failed to load. (See picture) Without taking the grips off there is no way to tell if it was a factory job or post purchase. It has been custom painted with knotwork. (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 Email with Questionsor Offers: sandersknives@gmail.com. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. SHINY CRAFTS | Large Bowie Knife With Sheath 18 Inch Mirror Polished D2 Stainless Steel Crocodile Dundee Knife - Razor Sharp Custom Bowie Knife For Men, Outdoor, Hunting Knife . Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. I think the pre-Coleman ones - at least some of them - had real Cocobolo handles rather than laminated wood scales. They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". If you don't have an account, create one here. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. Yes! Boy, I'll say! (70% off), Sale Price 2,684,911 Tweet I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife Check Price. That is really the one question I have about the knife. Choose the options youd like for the order. It is stamped "WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. Original Price 8,347,245 The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. Charlie. My knife has an abbreviated guard that was done by a previous owner and is currently semi-Bagwellized. Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. $21.96, $31.38 When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. First off let me say this forum appears to be populated by some very knowledgeable people and some impressive knife makers. Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? Boker 1969 Z28-Damast Liner Lock Knife Blue Aluminum (3.15" Damascus) MSRP: $594.95 Our Price: $446.21 Preorder Down Payment: $5.00 Add to Cart Vargo Knives Sobata 398 Frame Lock Knife Titanium (3" Satin Sintered Ti) Our Price: $225.00 Add to Cart Jake Hoback Perseverance Fixed Blade Knife Black G-10 (6.1" Stonewash) Our Price: $365.00 Add to Cart And you are spot-on when you allude to "gray areas." 2,093,350, 4,186,946 Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. Your knife was made in 1986. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. It is blade marked:WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). +C $35.71 shipping estimate. Large Bowies features excellent stag horn grip with brass pommel and English style brass cross guard. Its generally excepted that the first two variations on this knife where blade marked (see pics below). 3.3 3.3 . The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked:WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. Original Price 7,118,227 Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. Try contacting them via Messages to find out! One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. I guess the extra weight of the brass piece on the spine of the blade helps. Original Price 3,029,557 (50% off), Sale Price 1,666,256 Youve done your homework for sure. (30% off), Sale Price 3,338,731 $135.00, $150.00 I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. That helps narrow it down! Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. Handle variations are cocobolo, stag & bakelite. Dont see this option? 3,338,731, 4,173,456 This is the Western Bowie USA knife and the scarce Vietnam era 2nd variation, this tang stamp was produced circa 1966-1968. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. Orsold or pawned to shops in Fayettenam! from United States. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. They all had really good documentation. The one I have is chromed on the blade, crossguard and handle pins. Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. Camillus closed it doors for the last time in April of 2007. 2,955,665, 9,852,217 The blade's spine is five . Top Rated Seller. Nothing to do with the Western Bowies, but included for posterity since people keep calling the Bushman a "V44"- These knives (the #18 and clones) are incorrectly called the V44 Marine Raider Bowie knife. Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. You must log in or register to reply here. UP FOR SALE IS A VINTAGE WESTERN W49-H LARGE BOWIE KNIFE WITH SHEATH. The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams By Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. Original Price 9,852,217 A naive question, most probably - but, was this chroming ever done in-country? This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. 1978 was "B" and so on. Description. hardwood handles,leather sheath. Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com. Vietnam | English (US) | (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. Description. Captcha failed to load. (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 (40% off), Sale Price $75.30 $123.74, $164.99 (35% off), Sale Price 2,020,725 "Leather handled Bowie". If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. Because it still seems like an amazing knife. The W49s did leave the factory with a high polish on them. I hope this helps, Brad? The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. The marking are very important. RARE Vintage Western 2 Blade #691 TRAPPER BONE Handle NICE ! Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline . 1,722,414, 2,460,591 WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Original Price 1,206,897 Of the five two were chrome plated and three were not. i have had a western bowie for 30 years. I like them very much. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. As you can see it also has the small pins in the handle. Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week Anyone have experience with them? Original Price $615.00 There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. 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